The Hunger Games Trilogy

[anthony]

Yer, but don't many people in teen years, remembering Katniss is just a teenager through this, say they don't want kids, aren't getting married, blah blah blah... then maturity smacks most of us over the head and our values and beliefs change, we want different things.

I also think that maybe Katniss changed her mind on children based on the Capitol had fallen, there was not more indifference, all 13 districts were considered equals and they began sharing with other directly, trading, etc, progressively building a socialist economy to the original dictatorship / communist approach that they lived within before the revolution.

I love the mind f*ck 101 comment... very apt to describe what the capitol did to Peter, and others... even what they did to make slaves and chop out their tongues, having obviously reprogrammed them as well to become instant slaves to those in the capitol.

 

[ClairBear226]

Yer, but don't many people in teen years, remembering Katniss is just a teenager through this, say they don't want kids, aren't getting married, blah blah blah... then maturity smacks most of us over the head and our values and beliefs change, we want different things.

I found that I needed to remind myself throughout the series how young Katniss was really supposed to be. She'd been through a lifetime of traumatic events, but was still very young. But I remind myself that really, that's not all that unrealistic. Most of the soldiers we've sent to the sandbox are barely able to drink legally, and for myself, the majority of the really bad stuff happened by the time I was 21 as well. I think trauma must affect people differently when it occurs so young, vs. what it might do to someone with a few more years under their belt, but I haven't seen actual studies on it. You're right, too, that she was still able to evolve to some extent the way we all do, rather than being stuck in the mindset she had at 17.

Mind f*ck 101 must be a course you can take somewhere, because way too many people know how to execute it. From rapists and sex offenders to POW guards and those on the FBI's most wanted list. I swear they must sit them all down in a big lecture hall somewhere with a syllabus that reads, "Now if you really want them to lose it, this is what you do..."

 

[anthony]

I think trauma must affect people differently when it occurs so young, vs. what it might do to someone with a few more years under their belt, but I haven't seen actual studies on it.

There are lots of studies on this already across varying life stages.

Children are extremely adept to letting trauma go, providing it is not prolonged by a primary caregiver where trust is broken. Then their risk jumps for adulthood problems.

Adulthood is a mixed basket... it is like picking random numbers, as there is no way to tell which adult will get PTSD and which will not.

Aged persons tend to be extremely resilient to trauma, because they have such like experience they can accurately weigh the pro's and con's of sitting around thinking about things in a negative manner or literally forgive and forget, focusing on the positives in their lives for what little they could have left in their life... thus, little to no problems.

 

[ClairBear226]

Interesting. The results from older trauma victims doesn't surprise me much, the those of children does. I would think they would be the most likely for permanent difficulties. I wonder what the reactions of those in their early 20's vs 30's, 40's 50's would be? It would seem that the longer the life experience, the better the ability to rebound, but wonder if studies would prove that out. Any thoughts, Anthony?

 

[Nicolette]

Up to chapter 6 which is pretty impressive for me having little spare time :D

 

[anthony]

Interesting. The results from older trauma victims doesn't surprise me much, the those of children does. I would think they would be the most likely for permanent difficulties. I wonder what the reactions of those in their early 20's vs 30's, 40's 50's would be? It would seem that the longer the life experience, the better the ability to rebound, but wonder if studies would prove that out. Any thoughts, Anthony?

The reason children are not so susceptible to long-term effects is basically because their brain is still developing, thus malleable. A better word is neuro-plasticity. Basically, a child brain is still developing, thus it can easily create new neuronal pathways and adapt, basically, forgive and forget nearly.

Where this is not applicable to children is when a primary care giver / trusted person is the abuser and the abuse is over a long period. That is where the above no longer applies, and completely different things occur simply because the child is no longer developing mentally through normal developmental periods, instead strong emotions are not being satisfied and that carries through to adulthood in complex trauma, personality disorders, dissociative disorders, and simply unadjusted adults who don't form correctly through developmental years.

From memory, about 20's > 50 is a crap shoot. You may as well roll the dice.

 

[amethist]

A bit behind, but I finally got the set today. All 3 for the price of what one of the books should have been, brand new in a pack.

 

[NIKI]

I found it so sad that in the end Katniss's mother was not there for her when she was sent home to District 12. Her mother went to District 4 to help build up a hospital to help others but didn't even try to help her daughter first. It speaks of only one phone call that Katniss made to her mother.

Abandoning her for a second time really because when Katniss's father died her mother shut down, was not there for her and Katniss became like a mother to Prim and the provider for the family at age 11.

 

[anthony]

It was interesting how much Katniss understood that though, knowing her mother was a healer and needed in more important areas. An unselfish act in one sense... yet abandonment in another.

 

[KP the nut]

Anyone in the UK wanting to read these books. The Book People are selling all three books for a total of £4.99.

 

[Nicolette]

OMG... I am now up to chapter 10 and was even reading in the car coming home from grocery shopping as I can't put the first book down. Let the Games begin!

 

[Nicolette]

Seriously not fair. While Anthony was preparing dinner I sat down to read onwards starting at chapter 10. I'm no speed reader but I just closed the last page of the book, wanting to start on book 2. All while I should have been working but I just could not put the book down. Captivating!