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So, I've been thinking about these examples... and I'm kind of wondering about them..."do you obey the law" or "would you lie to get what you want" etc. Mine showed a schizoid-typical pattern of both narcissism and ASPD, but in schizoid it's different. I don't obey the law because I don't give the law any authority. I obey my own moral code. I would lie to get what I want but what I want is peace and quiet.
I'm not sure that either of those answers to me would be indicative of a PD.
First of all, I think most "normal" people both do and don't obey the law. Most of us have jay-walked, done some cash-in-hand work, driven above the speed limit without getting caught, driven home from a party where we think we could be one or two drinks over the legal limit, or whatever... I think the only people that obey the law 100% of the time, or who *try* to obey the law 100% of the time are OCD types.
Most people obey the law most of the time, but not all of the time. And they do so, for a variety of reasons. There are some laws that resonate with my personal ethics and I follow that way of behaving, but I would behave that same way, even if it wasn't the law. There are other laws that I find non-sensical or annoying and sometimes I look for ways to avoid following those laws. At the same time, I will still adhere to those laws, even if I think they're daft, if the risk of getting caught/ getting fined is something that seems unwarranted/ not in my interests. For example, in the towns near where I live, there's a ton of ridiculous rules about where/ when/ for how long you're allowed to park your car. If the risk of getting caught was minimal, I'd probably ignore those laws, some of the time if it was practical. But there's acutally quite a lot of traffic cops handing out tickes for parking violations, so nearly everyone in town adheres to these (silly) parking laws quite strictly.
There are some situations where I'm "scared" of the legal authorities... but mostly I'm not. I'm lucky to live in a democracy where the law is mostly upheld in a decent way and there's not really much police violence etc to speak of. I guess some other people follow the law out of a greater "fear" or "respect" of authority... I'm not sure. I was raised to think independently and to make up my own mind about things.
However, all of the above is not indicative of some kind of "personality disorder" to me. And I find your answer to that question @Weemie to be quite rational too and not really indicative of a personality disorder. But maybe that's just me... maybe I'm weird. I have no idea what a "super mentally healthy" person would answer to that question...???
As for "would you lie to get what you want"... well, first of all, every kid lies to get what they want some of the time... There's actually a specific developmental stage where they LEARN to lie... cos when kids are very little, they don't even understand what a lie IS. And some children, who have developmental or cognitive problems DON'T learn to lie, because they just don't "get it". So I'm not sure that lieing in and of itself is a "problem" or indicative of a personality disorder either.
We all lie a million little white lies each day... When people ask us "how are you" we mostly say "fine thanks". At work, if our boss is wearing something really unflattering, we don't blurt that out... we either say nothing or say something nice... Those are normal social skills... that's not people being devious and deceptive and "being liars". I think it's a matter of degree - do you lie MORE than you tell the truth, are you fake MORE than you are authentic... and the sitautions matter... and your motivations matter... Are you lieing so as not to hurt someone's feelings? Or are you lieing to manipulate someone?
Again, I don't see this as indicative of a personality disorder. I would be super, super sceptical of anyone who says they lie 0% of the time or 100% of the time... And I would be weirded out by someone who's a compulsive liar... but I don't see lieing in a normal day to day way as part of a personality disorder diagnosis...